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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby Marzipan » Mon May 28, 2012 9:40 pm

On the photoshoot schedule: Keep in mind that this is a fan forum event, and that it is not official AZ scheduling. However, staff also moved the Sailor Moon group from the top of the stairs and I really don't know why. I would like to know what places are considered photoshoot taboo so we can avoid events like this in the future. This is the first year I have heard of staff moving photoshoot groups when it may not be entirely necessary. It really makes things confusing when the schedule says one thing and you rush to get to a location only to find no one there because staff moved them. It makes everyone running things look bad. Hopefully someone can shed some light on this.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby djkidna » Mon May 28, 2012 9:45 pm

oglop_master wrote:There was one thing that I was really upset about, and that was the treatment of Homestuck cosplayers all weekend. I ran the Saturday night Homestuck shoot, and I was not at ALL happy with the treatment we received at the hands of certain staff members.

Our location was to the left of the ballrooms, at the end of the hallway. That was what was printed on the schedule. It was late, the rave had just opened, there was no one there, and we had left a path open for people to walk through if necessary. We were just doing our first pictures when a staff member pushed through the crowd, yelling at us that we had to move or she would take our con badges.

Now maybe we were blocking things. There really was no one around at the moment, but we were a big group, and it's a reasonable complaint. What I would expect to happen is to be asked politely to move, and maybe even be presented with an alternate location?

But no, instead we got a staff member who was yelling before she even got up to the front of the group, and threatening us when none of us had even voiced any protests yet. I was calm and polite with her, telling her that this was our location on the schedule and asking where we were supposed to move, but she didn't even give me the chance to finish before yelling at me that it was not, in fact, the location on the schedule, and that we had to move.

I was really pissed off by then, but I still didn't yell at her like she was yelling at me. I asked again where we were supposed to go, and she told me to go down the hallway, but not before yelling at the whole group that if we didn't move, she would CALL THE POLICE.

That was not appropriate in any way, and I am shocked and disgusted that she would say that to a group of cosplayers who hadn't even argued with her or refused to move. I had polite and respectful when I spoke to her, even asking the crowd to let her through when I saw her coming to the front, even though I knew she was going to yell at us from the look on her face. Nothing I did, and nothing any of the cosplayers there did should have merited either of those threats, and yet they were doled out without a second thought.

I also have to give another thank you to the staff member who, when we had to move a second time, moved the barrier at the end of the hallway so that we could do our photoshoot without disturbing the panels. He was respectful and helpful, and I really appreciated that, especially after the way the first staffer had dealt with us.

But basically, my point is that neither I nor anyone else at that photoshoot deserved to be treated like that, and it was absolutely not okay to be threatened without even bothering to be polite about it first. The staff is at the con to make sure that it runs smoothly and that everyone, regardless of the fandom, has fun. That is not what I saw in that staffer in the least, and if most of the staff is going to treat members of a certain fandom that way, they're taking away the essence of the accepting and open atmosphere of anime conventions, which is the reason so many people go. When people stop going, there's no more convention, and I know a lot of people who have already decided not to return.


If this is the same staff member I think it is, she was rude to everyone, not just your group and not because of your fandom. An older female staffer grabbed my friend by his badge and told him to stop yelling or she would take it, even though it wasn't him yelling, it was people around him who were cheering for in-character cosplay reasons.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby Marzipan » Mon May 28, 2012 9:46 pm

It sounds like this lady does not need to be a member of staff anymore. Did anyone report her?
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby djkidna » Mon May 28, 2012 9:50 pm

He just talked to her calmly and said that he wasn't the one yelling, and that she should talk to the people around her. She just backed away and gave a staunch apology. He didn't really want to do anything after that other than enjoy the rest of the con.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby PuppetQueen » Mon May 28, 2012 10:01 pm

I think my feathers would have been so ruffled that I would have marched on over to con-ops. That kind of behavior from staff is ridiculous. At least it is just one main person causing problems, but people don't tend to think that way when it comes to staffing.


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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby Marzipan » Mon May 28, 2012 10:04 pm

It's good that he was more mature than she was about it. Good for your friend.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby cyriades » Mon May 28, 2012 10:27 pm

I personally found no direct gripes with the convention this year, which is in and of itself a plus. I'm sorry to hear about the horror story with that one staff member though, but I found that the staff this year was in general very pleasant this year, as others have noted.

Plus:
The schedules and flyers posted all over the place. I want to hug everyone involved in those.
Definitely the water stations, as others noted.
Artist Alley did indeed feel better organized / easier to navigate.
Pre-registration was handled better than last year, but could use more staffers.
Very tightly focused selection of panels with just enough variety to appease the con-going palette. Most, if not all of, of the panels also seemed to be very well run.

Cons:
Almost literally none from direct experience. The only real negatives that come to mind are the times between panels that others mentioned, and the lack of retro game challenges in the game room, but that was more a result of the game room staff than Animazement itself. The game room was otherwise incredible as usual and had what felt like an even better lineup than last year.

Awesomes:
The guests. Spike Spencer, Kara Edwards, etc. Really glad they came back to AZ and they should be invited again.

The con goers. You really make the convention. Sure, there are some negatives with any convention, it happens, but we're all friends and love to have a good time. I hope we can all agree to help Animazement keep getting better and keep growing. Animazement would be nothing without you! :3
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby roughkiss » Mon May 28, 2012 10:38 pm

My only real complaint deals with the karaoke contest. The only rules that were available online were from last year so it wasn't totally clear what one needed to do to prepare, or even when the event would be before I got to the convention.

I never came across the rules for this year's contest, though it is highly possible that they were posted somewhere and I missed it. I tried to follow the rules from last years contest, but I do wonder if I overstepped by finishing the phrase when the music cut off on the song I sang. Many of the contestants didn't seem aware that their song was going to cut off around three minutes and ended rather awkwardly because of it. It might have been nice to reiterate the rules over the mic with everyone present so that the rules would be clear for the audience and the competitors.

I would also like to know what criteria the karaoke contest was being judged under. The judges were clearly calculating some kind of score at the end, but we had no idea what is was. Since the genres of music were fairly varied,it would make sense to know whether the difficulty of the song factored as well as pitch and delivery. Heck, I'd kinda like to know what my score was. I don't know if you'd want to do that since some scores will be lower than others, but it might be cool to know.

Other than that, it was totally worth participating in the contest. It was cool to get up on stage and sing for a group of people that size all by myself and I'll probably do it again next year. The queuing of music was generally very smooth and the one mistake that happened seemed like an unpreventable technical error. Thank you for giving me a chance to feel a little like a rock star for once.

:edit: Also, my friend apparently managed to get a booth in the artist alley but was not informed of this until she got to the convention. It's lucky she lives close otherwise she wouldn't have had her merchandise. I have a feeling that this is related to someone else's complaint that many of the artist alley people weren't around Friday.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby Epyon757 » Mon May 28, 2012 10:45 pm

Overall I had a good time this year. This was only my 4th year going but I look forward to it every year.
GOOD
+ The staff was nice. Me personally I had no unpleasant interactions with them.
+ Congoers/cosplay was awesome. Took some good pics not as much as I wanted but I always feel like that. Got a lot of "I like your cosplay" from people made me feel like a celeb. (BTW I was Snake Eyes)
+ Prereg line was better this year. Whatever line was shorter staffer went down the line getting last names to fill said line. Probably cut off another hour of me waiting.
+ The panels I went to were awesome please bring back the Jacabal's and keep bringing back Spike Spencer.
+ Like the brief panel descriptions they had on the schedule. Made it easy to decide if it was something I was interested in.

The Bad
- Friday was kind of a snooze. No really interesting panels going on. Looking at the schedule I told my friend, who could only go 1 day, that we should of planned for a Saturday cause that's when things kicked off. A lot more seemed to be going on that day.
- At one point during Friday night 2 bums came strolling in. Both within minutes of each other. 1 walked right up to the badge checker they had what seemed like a 10 second convo and this person let them pass. He walked to the lil balcony like section next to the escalator and then walked out. Then minutes later the second bum came by and same thing this time another yellow shit and police officer came and escorted the guy out. By this time my friend and I was outside watching the breakdancers. This should never of happened a number of things could of gone wrong if they slipped away. Maybe I had tunnel vision and the other staffer and police was watching from a distance but them coming in on the 2nd guy have me thinking otherwise. The badge checker should of called for backup or something. Point is they should be trained/told what to do when the crazies come out at night.

That's all I can think of right now. Overall enjoyed my time and like always can't wait for next year.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby invader56 » Mon May 28, 2012 11:25 pm

Good time for this year! Maybe one of the best.

Positive:
+ Buffer inbetween most events for you to run back to your room, eat, whatever
+Easier system for signatures
+Two doses of HELL
+Hotel and Starbucks staff wearing tails, and other con props to join in the fun
+Overall greater presence of RPD and EVENTONESECURITY in the dealers room and other "cramped events"
+Guilty Pleasures panel, please someone tell me if these guys have a twitter, blog or youtube??

Bad:
-Overall cramped spaces such as the dealers room, guys really need to open the wall up and extend the space between booths
-Unorganized or bad panels, I'm not naming who but please dont just read the Wikipedia entry for your panel and talk into the microphone not your creepy whisper voice
-Marriot/Convention connecting doors locked way before the convention ended on saturday night ( and this was well after the power was back on)
-"Rave only" attendees. The people who only buy a ticket for the rave and come in drunk or high, steal stuff (caught this on video), vomit on the floor, and generally give everyone a bad time
-I only saw one fluttershy in person, even though I have seen atleast six or seven in the pictures...I really love fluttershy
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby kaiser_forsaken » Tue May 29, 2012 12:22 am

invader56 wrote:-I only saw one fluttershy in person, even though I have seen atleast six or seven in the pictures...I really love fluttershy



HOW?

At one point, I saw no less than FOUR Fluttershy cosplayers within 10 feet of each other in Artist's Alley. Seemed like I couldn't throw a dead cat without hitting 2 or 3. Must have been one of the most popular costumes this year, right up there with the Homestuck folks.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby Greatsg » Tue May 29, 2012 2:53 am

oglop_master wrote:Yeah, I actually ran that photoshoot too, haha. I didn't choose that location next to con ops, though, I had to leave for a minute and they all decided to go up there for some reason. But yeah, that was definitely for cause, while the Homestuck shoot was not.

Also, another thing about that, I just checked the schedule, and there was nothing in that area (next to the ballrooms) that would have caused traffic until the rave let out at 2:30 AM. So there was really no particular reason to move us at all.


I'm gonna play a little devil's advocate here, but I was in attendance at the shoot for a bit (I was Jake in the Cairo coat) and I can fully understand why the shoot was moved from that original location, even if there wasn't going to ever be a problem with a blocking of flow of traffic at the time, it was a large enough group in a confined enough space of traffic areas that it could have caused issue in an emergency situation. However, as a witness to your exchange with the staffer, that definitely was not handled well on the staffer's part at all and you handled all of the moving situations very well, especially with such a large group of people to organize.

As for my own thoughts on the con, I want to give some special thanks to Chad for doing a great job running the con and for being kind enough to let me keep my panel equipment in con ops between the short breaks between a few of my panels throughout the weekend. I also want to give kudos to Sean in Programming for doing a great job with setting up panels and helping me out especially with a scheduling issue with the tech people and MST3K on Saturday night that kept us running to finish up the second feature of the night. I also hope all of the staff enjoyed the free donuts I gave you guys, I bought waaaaaaaay too many for Chess. XD

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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby Sucosa » Tue May 29, 2012 8:12 am

The con itself seemed to be pretty well run this year. The pre-reg line went a lot faster than I thought it would go and I was pleasantly surprised. I did have a few suggestions that I thought I would share though.

1. Fire Elite security- I have seen this weekend more scenes that were simple things that a polite word would have fixed turn into a full on rendition of COPS because of rude, overzealous security staff. They made people I know peace bond a UMBRELLA and a PLUSHIE, not to meantion peoples Photography equipment. They were not consistent with the rules- letting some pass while going over eager rent a cop on others. It was really better when volunteers handled check points- not to mention it would probably save the con money ( which is a cheaper con ticket, which is always a win).

2) Rotate or change judges for contests every year. The same judges have been in place for the craftsmanship for this con and the year before. I know people who have given up competing at AZ because it seems that the judges pick the same people or are looking for the same kind of costume every year. Not that the judges aren't nice people but in the view of a fair contest- a little fresh perspective couldn't hurt.


Thanks for giving a place to leave feedback- I hope 2013 goes as smoothly as this year.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby MinaUchiha2 » Tue May 29, 2012 9:57 am

Sucosa wrote:2) Rotate or change judges for contests every year. The same judges have been in place for the craftsmanship for this con and the year before. I know people who have given up competing at AZ because it seems that the judges pick the same people or are looking for the same kind of costume every year. Not that the judges aren't nice people but in the view of a fair contest- a little fresh perspective couldn't hurt.


I want to say my piece on this. There were different judges this year than last, maybe not all three but there were new ones. New people won, heck my friend Zip and I won this year and we sure hadn't last year. The costumes do change that win each year, while I didn't see all the others costumes I know there is a huge change in what they were wearing and won in vs last year. A lot of con have the same judges yearly because they know the judges have a good eye and know something that is more well crafted than others. While yes some people may win multiple years in a row its because they're wearing more things that are elaborate or amazing and working harder on their things.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby Se7enBishie » Tue May 29, 2012 10:33 am

Actually, I just remembered something. The "You Don't Know Japan" game show was missing. The Cultural game show seemed a little slapdash and there were two "Name That Tune" game shows. Can I suggest that he gets brought back in lieu of one of the "Name That Tune" game shows?
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby Sucosa » Tue May 29, 2012 10:35 am

MinaUchiha2 wrote:
Sucosa wrote:2) Rotate or change judges for contests every year. The same judges have been in place for the craftsmanship for this con and the year before. I know people who have given up competing at AZ because it seems that the judges pick the same people or are looking for the same kind of costume every year. Not that the judges aren't nice people but in the view of a fair contest- a little fresh perspective couldn't hurt.


I want to say my piece on this. There were different judges this year than last, maybe not all three but there were new ones. New people won, heck my friend Zip and I won this year and we sure hadn't last year. The costumes do change that win each year, while I didn't see all the others costumes I know there is a huge change in what they were wearing and won in vs last year. A lot of con have the same judges yearly because they know the judges have a good eye and know something that is more well crafted than others. While yes some people may win multiple years in a row its because they're wearing more things that are elaborate or amazing and working harder on their things.


I meant no offense to you Mina, Congrats on your win. I felt I had a right to put my thoughts out there just as everyone else is- everyone is allowed their own opinion. From the perspective of someone who has attended 4 cons this year and whom has merely observed (I've followed the contests but not entered myself) , but its been the same judges for at least three of the cons and much of the same winners- with some of the same costumes Competing. Not saying all contestants do that - but some do. All I am suggesting is that Judges be changed every year or maybe the rules need to be better defined- Such as how many previous placements put you in what category, if a costume has won a previous contest then it needs to be retired from competition to prevent sandbagging other people who are competing with a new costume. These are some of the rules that have been laid out by a lot of the large conventions in Florida and it seems to work well.

Please don't take these suggestions as a way of taking away from this years winners, one of my best friends placed too, so as I said not meant to offend. But it breaks my heart to see a lot of people I know giving up because they don't see that they stand a chance because the judges are the same every year, at every local con- and it seems the same people win with costumes you see them compete with at every con.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby KennyC » Tue May 29, 2012 10:46 am

Overall, I thought this was the smoothest run Animazement I've been to thus far. Great job!

Pros:
+ Artist Alley: Using the rooms next to AA for low-volume things really helped with traffic flow around AA. I didn't feel nearly as cramped as I did last year.
+ Water Stations: Glad these were back! Having a large trash can nearby seemed to have eliminated the litter issue.
+ Escalators: Glad RCC let y'all use a sign to warn people of escalator dangers, rather than using a dedicated person.
+ Registration: Preregistration badge pickup was quick and easy.
+ 18+ Armbands: These were really easy to get this year.
+ Spike: Good job moving Spike's Saturday 18+ panel to a ballroom. He definitely needs the space!
+ Autograph Tickets: I was skeptical, but these actually worked really well.

Improvement Items:
- Dubs: With three video rooms, why are there so few English dubs being shown? The ratio was more than 10 to 1, Subtitle to English. And the one dub showing I went to see, Saikano, wasn't even being shown in English. Nope, someone had chosen to show that one subtitled too. We invite English voice actors, yet we barely even show their work?
- Similar Panel Overlap: I come to Animazement primarily for the English voice actor panels, but there were a lot overlapped this year and I had to miss a number of them. I'd like to see more consideration for audience preference when scheduling the panels (i.e. don't overlap cosplay panels so cosplayers can go to all of them, don't overlap voice actor panels, so people who enjoy that can go to all of them, etc).
- Dedicated Signings: I'd be great to have a dedicated signing panel on Sunday to get any autographs you may have missed. Like the surprise panel last year.
- Panels: Overall I did feel like there were fewer panels that interested me this year, and I had a lot of downtime. Might just be me though.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby PuppetQueen » Tue May 29, 2012 11:33 am

invader56 wrote:Bad:
-Unorganized or bad panels, I'm not naming who but please dont just read the Wikipedia entry for your panel and talk into the microphone not your creepy whisper voice


I am guilty of using my creepy whisper voice at times during my panels lol. I don't think you're referring to either though...at least I hope not. It was most during the fan forum panel >.>

I think I used it once or twice in jest at the Alice in the Country of Hearts panel but we didn't just read from the WIkipedia entry.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby DrGonzo369 » Tue May 29, 2012 12:11 pm

Puppet doesn't have a creepy voice. It was full of sexifiedness.
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Re: Thoughts/Suggestions for AZ 2012

Postby R3dOtaku » Tue May 29, 2012 12:21 pm

Pros: All the same as already mentioned. Good con this year. Had fun.

Con: Main one I can think of is some of the music / acts during the Masquerade. While obviously AZ is geared towards an older crowd, this is still supposed to be a family friendly Con. While innuendos are fine, some acts were less than subtle. It seemed more prevalent this year than last. I think more careful watch over keeping the Masquerade approved for all audiences would help. We have 18+ panels for a reason.
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